Ep 211. - Ramadan and Resistance: 5 Ways to Keep Palestine in Our Hearts & Minds with Khalid El-Awaisi
Bait ul Maqdis – the sacred precinct in Palestine - is a blessed place in Islam – but today, we have downplayed maybe its centrality to what it means to a believer. From my last conversation with Dr Khalid El-Awaisi – where he controversially said that al Aqsa and these blessed lands have to be more clearly central to our faith and worldview – we want to explore how we practically manifest this nearness to Bait ul Maqdis and Palestine.
Dr Khalid El-Awaisi is from Hebron, Al Khalil, in Palestine. He is a lecturer in the pioneering field of Islamic Jerusalem Studies. He is an Associate Professor of Islamic History at the Social Sciences University of Ankara.
Dua mentioned by Dr El-Awaisi: اللَّهُمَّ ارْزُقْنَا صَلَاةً فِي الْـمَسْجِدِ الْأَقْصَى وهُوَ حُرٌّ عَزِيزٌ
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Introduction
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in our Salah we need to remember Dua like this grant us a prayer in ALA free from occupation the um is going to wake up
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liberate ala and Allah will give you a long life to see that and pray in it after it's celebrated
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with the month of Ramadan we're reading the Quran as you're reading the Quran ponder over the geography of the Quran every night would mention Al each person needs to find an
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how can I serve this issue within my own field of
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expertise Bal mtis the sacred Precinct in Palestine is a blessed place in Islam but today
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we have downplayed maybe a centrality to what it means to be a believer for my last conversation
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with Dr Khalid Ali where he controversially said that Al AA and the Blessed land
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in it have to be more clearly Central to our lives and our faith and our world viw
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I thought it would be interesting to really delve deeply into why makis is so important
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to us and how do we practically manifest that in our lives Dr kadid Al AI is from
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Hebron Al Khal in Palestine he's a lecturer of the pioneering field of Islamic Jerusalem
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studies he's the associate professor of Islamic history at the social sciences University of anara
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Dr KH and welcome back to the thinking Muslim thank you for having me uh on the thinking Muslim
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again well look the the conversation we last had brought out a lot of strands of of um follow-up
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conversation so I want to explore this concept of be mdis in particular uh in in Islam let's
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just start from the very beginning because I know you have five ways by which you can practically manifest the love for B mtis but before we get there just uh bring us up to speed with what
What is Bait Almaqdis?
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is B mtis in in Islamic terminology what do how does it translate and uh the the reason why it's
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so important from an Islamic perspective yes um within the uh context of uh Alam he never
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used any other terminology to refer to this area as much as he used the name makd is in reference
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to three uh different meanings one is which is and this is starting with the concept of Al as
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a house of worship of Allah subhana wa T and the first house Allah says in the Quran in is
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the so the concept of bait in that narrow sense is a House of Prayer the second one uh so in the
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sense of the Kaa and then for the second house on earth is and we'll explore it in in a little while
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so the second one is uh the city the holy city which is Medina and we have alhi wasallam in the
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night Journey referring to the city as bis and the third one is the region the holy land okay and S
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alaih wasallam uses this uh as the land of raising and Gathering when he is asked about tell us a
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fatwa about he says it's the land of raising and Gathering the quranic terminology for this region
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is verse 21 so what we see is an Islamic concept but when we say an Islamic concept
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um many people narrow the concept of Islam to post Muhammad sahu alaihi wasallam but within
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the Quran within Islamic history Islam is the religion of all the prophets of Allah so Moses
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was a Muslim so was Jacob so was Abraham so was Adam and I think this is today Muslims have been
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narrowed down to uh uh what orientalists called muhammadans uh and this is what many non-muslims
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see Islam to be and many what Muslims seem to have been framed within and I think this is a very big
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uh problem that we need to rethink within the Islamic concept Islam within the quranic concept
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within the prophetic concept Islam is the uh uh from the beginning from Adam Alam and Muhammad is
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the last messenger of Islam and uh in the Quran talks about the Disciples of Jesus as Muslims
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Abraham as a Muslim and this concept I think a lot of non-muslims have a problem with it uh but
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within Islam this is a very wellestablished uh idea so going back to the the the concept
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of this is a land uh in terms of terminology we've delved into it but this is a land that is
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holy blessed uh it is most of the geography of the Quran is based around this particular land
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as uh many uh Scholars talk about this is a land of the prophets a Land of Hope uh and it has many
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dimensions within the Islamic uh idea so set up geography the parameters of geography of
Geography of Bait Almaqdis
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btis like where does it start where does it end yes so within uh uh Islamic uh uh literature the
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region of M extends uh Beyond and different from what we call Palestine today Palestine
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today is set by the British and French in the early 20th century so today Palestine and the
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map of Palestine that is flagged up everywhere is actually a colonialist map and well before
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that during the Roman period there was three Palestines uh but the prophet s alhi wasallam never used the term Palestine he always used the term B mdis and the region of the holy land or B
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mdis within Islam is different from the Christian holy land and the Jewish uh promised land so these
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are completely two different concepts within Islam it extends to parts of today modern day
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Palestine and parts of Jordan so it includes all the way to as al- Maki says in his famous
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uh book in the best of Divisions so he extends it and this is based on many Traditions from
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the early period uh all the way to the area of nablas and Janine in the north to in the South
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uh to parts of today's Jordan particularly kak and mut where the sahaba came uh during the time
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of wasallam to uh uh so this would include heon andalan to the west and Imani calls himself M
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because he comes Froman which is part of uh and um ya um and ramla lud and even uh it has territorial
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water yeah IMI mentions it's 12 miles into the sea in the medit Anan sea so it's a the the region not
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many Muslims would know this today but it's very well established within Islamic uh geographers and
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historians and even uh uh early Muslim Scholars and were very well aware of it and one example
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is the companion of wasallam he knew it is west of the River Jordan so he says to
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the sahab bury me west of the River Jordan in in the land of and told KH hurry to your brothers in
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aam uh for one Village in is better to me than half of Iraq or a great province in Iraq so the
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concept the quranic concept is the prophetic concept is or the region and the geographers
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and the MU in the early Muslim period were very well aware of these uh divisions and and set up
Bait Almaqdis blessings
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for me why makis is blessed like what other the narrations that we know from from the Quran and
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Sunnah which set out the uh you know the bless to be on the last show we talked a little bit about
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this and we said that uh in many ways um we are used to meca and Medina uh but we know less about
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uh the importance of so just set that out for us please yes within within Islam there is uh
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different terminologies that Allah subhana T has established for these places yes so Mecca Allah
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and Medina wasam used the concept of Haram okay and the concept of Haram is a sanctuary where uh
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within this Precinct no fighting no cutting of trees no uh uh transgression uh it is a place
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of safety and it's a sanctuary in a sense uh so even for Animals yes you're not allowed to
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hunt you're not allowed to uh so this is the concept of Haram is not a Haram yeah uh so
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it's a very different concept the Quran never calls or wasam uses the concept of Holiness or
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for mea andina but the Quran uses this for and we talked about a little about the meaning of mad
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uh it has two meanings one is uh purified and the second is Mubarak which is blessed so the
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concept of mutar it may be desecrated but it will be purified and we talked about this in the sense
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of that desecration of injustices within this land and it will continuously be purified when we gave
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the examples of uh from ancient history all the way to the Crusades and to the Moguls and uh uh
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into the current uh Zionist State and also in the future the example of and and Ma so this is where
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talks about it as land of rat and Jihad until the day of judgment so it's a it's a testing uh
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uh land for the umah it's when the umah Falls is what at the time of Salah it's what brought the um
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back up again and I think this is something that today the um needs and I think is doing that uh
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particularly you see how not just Muslims but the whole world is rallying against the Injustice that
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is happening there there's maybe injustices more in other parts of the world like in Sudan or or
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in uh Eastern turkistan or in in Kashmir but this is a place where if you in the Injustice here it
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will be reflected and it will have implications across the whole uh of the world and if you bring
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peace in this land you will be able to bring it across the whole world inshallah insh [Music]
Donate to Baitulmaal
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and [Music]
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Connect to Baitulmaqdis
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so you set out five ways by which uh the sahaba yes made B makis practical in their lives and
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and um how we should emulate the sahaba so let's go for each one one by one so let's start with the
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first Way by which we uh we recalibrate I suppose our way of thinking such that uh this land becomes
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closer to our hearts and our minds yes so the first one is uh to put this within the context
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Allah subh says in the Quran the best example for you uh is Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
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so is the role model and looking at the way connected the should be actually a very important
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lesson for us if it was important for if it was important for the S then automatically it
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should be important for us and how R connected the sah Tod then becomes to us the road map
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for us connecting ourselves Tod so from day one wasallam didn't come with a new religion
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so this is an important context was the continuation of the message that came before
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him the message of uh Isa and the message of Zakaria the message of mosa the message of ibraim
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and going all the way back uh to Adam and the the sh may be different but the main Foundation are
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all the same so in terms of Hajj fasting and the Quran makes clearly that Muhammad didn't start
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this this ISL indeed to Allah religion is only Islam how they were deviated later on is something
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else but starting with when wasallam immediately after the first command read the second command
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was to pray because to make that connection with Allah subhana wa tala and we know that used to
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pray in the morning and in the evening plus as in the second chapter revealed to wasallam stand
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up and pray all of the night except for a little part um and the as says in the authentic narration
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ined from day one his was towards towards so that connection so wasallam would stand up
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in prayer from the day he becomes a prophet and he prays towards the of the prophets so
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he's praying towards and that created a spiritual bond between and in the he says immediately after
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after he would teach after someone would become Muslim the first thing he would teach him is Salah so that connection with Allah and uh Salah is extremely important in the connection between
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the person and uh their Allah subhana his creator so alai wasallam immediately creates a connection
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withd through it being the first and you have the sahaba Abu Bakr Ali Khadijah Z and all the sahaba
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that are becoming Muslims and praying towards and this is something amazing that while the ca
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was desecrated with hundreds of Idols B makd was a place purified from sh at that time so
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this was idea of establishing in their hearts at that moment because praying towards the Kaa
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at that moment would be surrounded what by Idols it would confuse the new Muslims to to this or at
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least the perception of others towards them so praying away from from that and would choose a
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place if he would pray with the Caba in between he would come to a place where there was no Idol in
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between directly to the and the actual ultimate is what this did to the sah is it created a spiritual
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bond between them and that the day accepts Islam and narrates [Music] thisi in by he says when
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om accepts Islam and he was the 40th to accept Islam one person made the difference uh and the
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felt the the pride of Islam immediately connected it to and he comes to and he says I would like to
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go to he said for business he says no I would just like to pray in and this I think spiritual
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connection is something that we need to revive in our life today the today is the but we know that
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our Salah came through the five daily prayers during the night journey and the Ascension of
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was from and our Salah should be an Ascension so in a sense in our Salah we need to remember
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and a way to do this uh is to include in our every day through a Dua uh and I think this Dua
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um is whether in our or after we finish our Salah or just before we say Salam a Dua like
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this Allah grant us a prayer in free from occupation and I think having this as a
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routine would revive in our life like it was for sah praying towards every day
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that spiritual bond that was created we can do that through our prayer by making that
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Dua so and this is building on something wasam says um within the framework of our
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discussion it has to be continuous your action being continuous is better than something oneof
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and being you know people today are associating themselves with makd with oneoff things so when
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today something happens in ALA uh people might stand up and be angry but then when
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it dies off they'll forget about it the idea is to have something continuous so having this
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as part of your do daily Dua I think will get you closer spiritually Tod I think that's it's a it's
When to make Dua?
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a fascinating um thing that you raised in fact if you can give us that Dua we can put on the screen
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as well as in the show notes so that everyone can memorize it and place it so uh you know you you
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mentioned there that we can read that in our suud we can read that just before we give Salam yes um
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and and as long as it's in Arabic that's perfectly fine for our Salah just a point in in terms of if
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you are a hanfi uh then it is uh you make it at the end before you give your Salam but if you
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are a sha or Maliki or in your you can make this uh you can make this Dua so in the terms of the
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uh some of the Hani Scholars have have an issue of adding anything within the Salah but within
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the other wasam says the close you are to Allah is in your yes so any Dua in your is something
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takes you that Ascension we talked about is at another level right and this Dua in particular
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is actually for you and the so Ya Allah grant us a prayer Ina free from occupation is that the um
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is going to wake up liberate and Allah will give you a long life to see that and pray in it after
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it's liberated that's and I think that putting yourself the um and in one Dua it and saying this
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on a daily basis whether in your or in in your in your Salah I think it would do to us what it did
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to the sah praying towards every day right and that's brilliant second Point uh how do we make
Centralising Al-Aqsa
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AL Central to our practical lives yes or Central to our practical lives uh the way we look at the
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wayam connected the sah to and actually this was through quranic Revelation a third of the Quran
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today are stories of prophets the prophets of Islam and I keep repeating this because
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we need to uh Allah subhana says to us that we as believers do not distinguish between his we
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do not distinguish between the messengers of Allah so we are the true inheritors of Abraham and Moses
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and Jesus peace be upon them all and Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam so in this sense the
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Quran is full of the stories of these prophets and these prophets are the prophets of Islam and they
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came with the message of Islam and you see all the prophets of God have come with the same message
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and calling people to uh a better uh to the betterment of this life and the Hereafter and you
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see these stories half of the Quran in Mecca was stories of these prophets and it had many reasons
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it was one giving wasallam uh giving him support that what you're going through your brothers the
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prophets have got gone through before you and another dimension it link the sahabah to the land
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of the prophets which is uh starting with uh Adam coming to uh the story of Abraham and Allah subh
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says inah which is a mean chapter and we saved him and L to the land which we have blessed for
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all the worlds and this Bara of this land going back to the quranic terminology the land of Baraka
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the Baraka is not just for the Muslims the Baraka is not just for uh humans it even goes beyond to
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the most inclusive quranic terminology for all the worlds uh so you see the story of ibraim this was
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Land of Hope for him like it was the Land of Hope for S alaih wasallam after he has gone through the
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the year of sorrow and T and and and and others on the other side you have the story of L you have
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the story of uh uh Jesus Isam and his disciples you have the story of Mariam you have the story
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of Zakaria and Yahya you have the story ofan and dud you have the story of ishak and is and and
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all of this the geography of this is the land of makd so whenever you are reading these stories of
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the prophets it is making that connection so imagine Abu Bakr or om AR or Al or Ali or or
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standing up in prayer facing reciting the story of and the Quran uses specific Quran geographical
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terminology an easterly place and when the Muslims uh buil rebuilt the ofam is exactly in the most
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easterly corner of Al Masjid AA and they call the gates the gates of the of mar and then you
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have the gate and this is Reviving how the Quran when the the and the sah rebuilt M on the original
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foundations that date back to the time of Adam and this is the way the Quran was connected the
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S to so was through the Hadith and one Hadith Abu who was one of the first Muslims comes toh
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wasallam and his story of his Islam is incredible uh he doesn't eat anything for 30 days and all he
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drinks is zamzam water and he comes to wasallam accepts Islam and he says toam he's Amazed by the
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bar of zamzam and he says to him what is the first Masjid on Earth and he says the he says
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what is the second mosque on Earth why would he ask this because it was his and he says he says
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how long between and Thea and he says 40 years andani Andi and most of the Muslim Scholars say
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the building of the Kaa comes way before ibraim from the first human because Allah says in verse
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96 the first structure the first house of worship for Humanity is the c
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and thei here says the second is and between them 40 years the great says this is from the
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time of Adam both these two centers of yeah so way before the children of Israel way
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before uh uh the uh uh time of way before way before M way before ibraim these are
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the two centers ofed on Earth and this is the inheritance of the Believers so you have the
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stories of the prophets you have the Hadith of wasallam connecting the sahab to this land
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uh and this religious connection for us today so we said the first spiritual connection is we can
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revive it through Dua the uh religious connection we can revive this through understanding why is Al
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and the land of Barak important to me as a Muslim today and to do this I think every Muslim needs
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to read something uh on a daily basis that will reconnect them like connected the sahab to this
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and I think with the month of Ramadan we're reading the Quran as you're reading the Quran ponder over the geography of the Quran uh in one side if you can read why it was important to the
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sahab why the at least read a verse of the Quran a day or a Hadith a day that connects you todis and
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there is uh a good website that uh inshallah by the month of Ramadan will be launched uh
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ww. I love aa.com okay and what it does it does this the idea is to revive the importance OFA in
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our hearts through this religious connection how told the sah to be connected to this is a way
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that we can read this and an example uh of this is how every night would mention and you might think
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how is this possible our mother says after the night Journey would not sleep until he recite is
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soah does not want to forget the meeting of all the prophets together in Al and this concept that
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every night mentions and should be an inspiration for every Muslim that every night I will mention
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the first two centers of and the ca uh and rekindle This Love For This Place uh through
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the way connected uh the sahab to this uh to this so that's a SP first point is a spiritual
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connection second point is a religious connection the third point is a political connection explain
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that yes the political connection and a lot of people have an issue with politics and Islam
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but this is part of the secularization of uh uh Muslims today uh but this is you cannot separate
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religion uh or Islam from politics in any way and although the European experience post uh uh
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the French Revolution try to separate the church from uh politics but that's not in reality that
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hasn't been experienced but what has been forced is separating Islam from politics is something
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that we're living through today and even within Muslim states this is something that's been pushed
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secularization moving religion out of the equation completely but when you see uh Donald Trump and
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you have uh uh Charles uh King Charles uh being the head of the church uh the Church of England
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or on the other side the religious manifestation within the West you think why is Muslims mov Ming
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religion completely out of the equation is another matter but the Quran is full of politics life our
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life is based on politics but the example that does this in the Quran is while the sahabah were
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in the most difficult stage in their da which is in the mechan period when suya has been uh
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martyred when her yaser has been martyred when the sahaba are being persecuted the Quran does
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not come to discuss their local politics it comes to discuss International politics and this is a
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war between the Persians and the Romans or the byzantian and the Quran in the first quranic
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prophecy does exactly that what does the Quran do [Music] so imagine today going to the the UR
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Muslims and telling them there's a war between Russia and the West over Ukraine they'll tell
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you yeah why are you telling me this the sahaba are being persecuted in Mecca and the Quran comes
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down to talk about a war between two superpowers why does the Quran do this it is as the scholars
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the MU have mentioned it is to take the Muslims from the this is not a local matter Islam is an
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international religion and you need to keep your eye out on what is happening and this prepared the
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sahaba for the conquest of these lands a decade or two decades later and Abu Bakr being the first
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khif he was well aware of the weaknesses and the strength of both the Persians and byzantian that
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he managed to within 5 years of the death of s alai wasam both these Powers have been have
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kneeled down in front of the Muslim armies and the Muslims have conquered these lands but taking it a
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step back the Persians have taken over all the byzantian they've even besieged Constantinople
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Istanbul today they've taken all of North Africa all of bilad sham and the Quran mentions this
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story when it's in relation to so the Quran says the Romans had been defeated where in is the
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land of uh around Jericho around the area of the Dead Sea uh the lowest part on Earth in terms of
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geology um and they shall be the Quran prophesizes that they shall be victorious within a few years
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something political analysts at that time said that is not impossible they've lost imagine today
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Russia is invaded and every part of Russia Falls with the exception of the capital city Moscow
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the Romans lost everything with the exception of their Capital the byzantian uh and everyone said
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this is the end of Byzantium the Quran said no they shall be victorious within a few years what
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this did to the sahabah it connected them to this world World politics and Abu Bakr sik even made a
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bet at that time betting wasn't uh it was made uh Haram in Medina forbidden in Medina but in
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the mechan period it wasn't so Abu Bakr made a bet that within 3 years the Romans shall be Victorious
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and then he tells this to S alaihi wasallam andas said who said 3 years he said in Arabic is between
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three and 10 said be a little more careful increase the uh number of years and increase
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your uh wager so Abu Bakr increases it to 9 years and he makes it from 10 camels to a 100 red camels
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which are the best so imagine someone making a bet today 100 Ferraris uh on uh a political or on
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a football match or whatever what this did to the sahabah it made them follow the smallest details
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of the war between the Persians and the byzantian uh the sasanids and the uh Romans and this took
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this to a completely new level and was Central to this how can we revive this in our life today the
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people in makd are doing this on behalf of the um the people of Gazza are giving up this fight
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on behalf of ala on behalf of the umah so the umah the least it can do is do what follow what
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is happening politically and do not just passively follow uh turn this into action by re-sharing and
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exposing the real face of Zionism um and this I think is reflected in verse S of Allah says in the
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Quran before you will enter the Masid you will disgrace their faces so this is we're talking
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about a road map for The Liberation and these are steps one Dua two uh learning the religious
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importance three following the politics and being active in sharing this uh and exposing the real
Activism and Baitalmaqdis
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face of uh Zionism today so let's talk about the fourth Point activism yes how does that link to
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practically manifesting this love for for for this yes this we're talking about the minimum
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standard that we should be doing on a daily basis for our connection with BD yes and I
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think each person needs to find an nich how can I serve this issue uh within uh my own field of
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expertise um and each one uh needs to develop their own road map and what we're talking about
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here is just uh uh ABC but each one needs to develop their own uh Way Forward and I would
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like to give an example for this activism from the Quran and it's in relation to B is
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uh and it's the story of talut uh and jalut and the Quran mentions inah Bak that a group
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of bani is after they were forced out of their land they went to a prophet of theirs and they
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said we would like to make Jihad in the way of Allah and the context here is B is wanting
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to fight in the way of God and to reenter the holy land and he says Allah has chosen over you
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talut as king sa in the Biblical context they say we will never accept him because he's not
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the right leader he says Allah has given him two attributes that you do not have
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one Allah has given him uh uh intellectual ability and strength in physical ability and he intellect
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comes well before uh physic physical physical strength uh they don't accept they get into an
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argument eventually Allah brings the Ark of the Covenant carried by the angels and that
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is the sign for him to be your king it's a very uh detailed story he becomes the leader of the
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Israelites to take them into the holy land and he the first thing is this is linked to activism
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is you have to have discipline and he tells them your first test
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is you are not allowed to drink water but water is halal no one will tell you don't drink water
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he says your test is you'll be tested by a river and this River uh no one should
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drink from and if you drink he will not continue and there 80,000 with him only 300 do not drink
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and you can see this level this this uh uh discipline is what is lacking today and I think
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this we can trans translate this into uh each one needs to find the niche in which they are
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able to do this but I think at the same time uh think how what self-discipline I need and I think
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within this context maybe boycott is something that active boycott is something that will give
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us that self-discipline for us to be able to uh something uh I like I will not take as part of
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my self- discipline towards on the route to B so your final Point your final Way by which we
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practically manifest UMD in our lives is preparing a gift explain that to me please uh this is in a
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context where Al wasallam is responding to a gift he receives in his Masid a companion from his
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name is from Al from Hebron he comes to Medina he's a priest he accepts Islam and he brings
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two gifts toam one he builds the first for in his Masjid the second is he put ltin in the mosque of
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wasallam and you know particularly at night when it was dark uh now you have light in the Masjid
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So within this context Maya a female companion comes toam and she tells him yeah give us a fat
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about and he says it is the land of phasing and Gathering go and pray in it for one prayer in b
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this is equal to a thousand elsewhere immediately Muna a female freed slave uh a companion she says
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what if one cannot go there doesn't just say make Dua or just learn he says turn this into action
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and he says send the gift and he puts the gift in the context of uh put light uh send the gift
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uh of oil to lighten its Lattin for the one that sends a gift will get the same reward as praying
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in it so you can see that context that send a gift it will be as if you are praying in it and this is
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something that easily can be done by every Muslim today uh I think a small gift today to Ala to keep
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ala alive but I think a gift for the liberation of Al is something that we need to ponder
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over uh it's been a really fascinating conversation and we need to internalize and make
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sure we practice yes uh what you you mentioned uh to practically manifest Al in our lives so thank
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you so much for your time and I pray to Allah subhana that we can act upon these points and
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Del Liberation will then become closer and that we can pray in ALA free from occupation a mean a
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