Ep 193. - Syria’s Struggle and Allah’s Promise: Insights from Dr. Shadee ElMasry
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Syria has witnessed a remarkable victory in recent weeks, with a brutal dictator falling against all odds. What is the Islamic significance of this? How should we understand the concepts of victory and seeking Allah’s help? To delve deeper into this topic, we welcome Dr Shadee al-Masri back on the show to enlighten us about these crucial ideas of victory and seeking Allah’s assistance. How much do Allah’s help and victory rely on our actions, iman, and preparation? What are the religious implications of surrendering the struggle or feeling disheartened?
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Introduction
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if Victory is from Allah subhana wa ta'ala why don't we just wait for it this is a gift from Allah tala after all these months of seeing all this terrible things happen the Syrian
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people know best about their country we Muslims when we leave Islam we do worse when Allah gives
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Victory it's really sudden and quick but the impossible did happen in Syria how many small
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groups have defeated large groups our Dua to Allah is not restricted to what we can imagine Syria has w a remarkable victory in recent weeks with a brutal dictator falling against all
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the odds what is the Islamic significance of this how should we understand the concepts of
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Victory and seeking the help of Allah subhah wa ta'ala to delve deeper into the topic we have
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welcomed back on the show Dr Shadi Al musri to Enlighten us about these crucial ideas of
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Victory and seeking Allah's assistance how much do Allah's help and victory rely on our actions our
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and our preparation what other religious implications of surrendering the struggle
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or feeling disheartened Dr sh Al and welcome back to the Muslim thank you for having me it's always
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nice to be on and I wish I could have been on live in person in England but another time inshallah
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inshallah tala no it'd be wonderful to to have you with us uh we had Dr D wed with us a few
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a few few days back alhamdulillah but it would be wonderful to have you in in sunny or not so
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Sunny London you know that as well of course of course well today we've got a really uh I think
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important show because it's it's really something that I think I've been thinking a lot about and I know that a lots of Muslims have been thinking about especially in the light of what's happened
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in Syria uh so let's start with the the turn of events really in these past few weeks like can we
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conclusively say that what happened in Syria you know the the fall of a tyrant Bashar is an
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example of Allah subhana wa tala's Victory well um uh for sure I think you could definitely say
Allah’s victory?
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this is a far a relief for the and not only that the two Sundays ago or three Sundays ago whenever
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it was when the uh Bashar actually left fled uh I don't know about you I'm sure for you too but
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from my soul from a cont it really had Aid type of feeling absolutely seeing all those prisoners come
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out and then you know your Syrian friends talking seeing how happy they are and think about it it's
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been a year plus almost two years now I even lost track of this genocide what is it now going on a
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year and a half right next October two years yeah for about eight 16 17 18 months most Muslim have
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been so down with the news it's like every day some like terrible news comes and in little micro
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dosages and sometimes really gruesome pictures although you're not touched in your daily life and
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we're not touched in our daily life but seeing it nonstop it keeps hitting you it keeps hitting you it keeps hitting you I felt that that Sunday a lot of release occurred in a sense it was the opposite
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mood for once and you definitely had this feeling that this is a gift from Allah tal after all these
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months of seeing all this terrible things happen something you least expect it um such a good thing
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has happened and for that I don't think anybody can deny that and the most educated and learned
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uh Scholars of Syria uh that are outside of Syria and inside of Syria we're all celebrating
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they're going to know better about their country than us right and when when I saw that I felt
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this is definitely something there's like a unanimous across the umah happiness that's
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something from Allah that's a farage it's a relief from Allah subhana wa tala without a doubt Dr Charli there were some Muslims a very minority of Muslims who were not happy and on
Realists in Ummah
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the very first day I remember of this Victory they were questioning all sorts of things and
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they were raising all sorts of concerns and and in a way dampening our Spirits like is that a problem
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from a from an Islamic perspective or is that just we are going to have people in our um who who are
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realist who going to wonder about different situations and try to analyze for situations
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in in a more dry Academic Way well there is a uh a concept of from the Hadith of of course that means
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the believer is a mirr of the believer meaning that um we should advise each other one of the
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meanings another meaning is that you reflect your friends who are the friends that you always keep
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around you you reflect one another right your Dean will be on their Dean it takes from another Hadith
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your Dean will be on their Dean but also there's another meaning that we could take from that which is when your Muslim brother is in a certain State you also need to recognize that state that they're
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in and to see everybody so happy you don't go and be a downer on that day even if you have something
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behind this that you suspect is coming the the believer should mirror a Pious muslim's believer's
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State at that time like I can't go to a janaza to a brother but say Hey listen like you're going
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to inherit a million dollars right that's not the right attitude so there is something to say about
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that being not the right way to behave even if you're 100% right then we go to the second point
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which is that uh the prophet am said the people of Mecca are more aware of its little inroads and
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neighborhoods and Villages and that's something where we have to remember the Syrian people know
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best about their country they're the ones who suffered they're the ones who revolted in the first place if you think about it right it wasn't Outsiders who came to revolt it wasn't um Western
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funded Jihad groups who came and started this right it was I should say false Jihad groups but
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was the Syrian people so why don't you take let them lead on their own country and that's common
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sensical reaction uh regarding that thirdly just let's look at it from another perspective which is
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that you're going to try to say that this is not good for the axis of resistance but why do you
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care about the axis of resistance because of the Palestinian people well aren't the Syrian people
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people as well and whoever did know how bad Bashar was to his people on that day they got to see it
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from the medical uh I think biology Professor who had been in jail in solitary confinement so long
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he struggled to remember his name yeah uh to all the other to the children who came out of prison
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and I remember someone was saying oh wow they they imprisoned kids and they like no they were
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born there from rape that kid hasn't seen the son ever in his life so when they I think that should
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have shut up everybody I want to explore the ideas of Victory and the help of Allah actually maybe a
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quick definition from you when we in English talk about Victory we tend to use the word ner to imply
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Victory and help of Allah is that right like can can n be interchangeably used for these two two
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basic ideas it is uh well there you have which is a relief after oppression you have a a of course
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linguistically it means aid but when it's divine Aid you're not going to lose so it's a victory
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but a n is a victory with with fighting right and a f is Victory without fighting hence Allah
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revealed the was T the fat was Mecca Mecca no fighting with fighting Battle of H and and so
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when you have Divine Victory no one nobody can defeat you and when you don't have it there's
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no way to win interesting so when we say as a matter of Iman that Victory nther comes from
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Allah subhana wa taala and only comes from Allah subhana wa taala like what do we actually mean
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by this Allah subhah wa taala gives Victory inah saat to his Messengers and this has been
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ordained
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right Allah has ordained inah verses 171 until you go to 17 uh3 The Messengers and no messenger was
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killed say ibraim he faced off against Nimrod he defeated him Prophet Musa against F he defeated
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de him Prophet against all of their leaders in the whole world he defeated them by a miracle
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Prophet M me we mentioned Prophet mus with Prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam
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we know defeated them and Prophet Isa was not killed nor crucified and is not dead and will
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return to defeat his enemies and bring the B is into the fold of Truth as it says in the
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Quran there is none from the people of the book except they will believe in him before his death
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so yes some may side with dead they're defeated then they will believe in him point being is that
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Allah gives Victory to the truth he doesn't give Victory to a religious group if you want
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it doesn't give Victory to an identity if you want Victory you have to go behind behind the truth and
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you'll get the victory the proof at the Battle of when the principle of obedience was not observed
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despite the power the defeat of the enemy and the messenger of Allah himself was with them they
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suffered severe losses to the point they went home feeling loss yes they had done great damage to the
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enemy but great damage happened to them too why is that as the great Muhammad M shwi used to always
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is uh talk about this Allah gives Victory to Islam if you are off of it and he still gives Victory
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then what does it undermine it undermines Islam if the Muslims had a clear-cut victory in despite the
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Disobedience what would that have undermined the prophet Sall alaihi wasallam that we disobey him
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and we still do good and so that's the principle let's take a look at muslim's practice of Islam
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and their military status their political status and then let's took when they left Islam and went
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to nationalism and secularism let's fast forward and look at the status of the Islamic world now
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divide are they more divided 200 years ago or now for sure now are the non-believers around them
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have more of a free hand to play around in your own countries more then or now do you have debts
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outbound debts to other nations that basically financially control you more 300 years ago or
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now like okay was your military feared 300 years ago or now like just go down the line
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of what we would call political power and just do a comparison of unit by unit unit
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by unit item a line item by line item so we Muslims when we leave our Islam we do work
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non-believers when they leave their religion they do better because false religions shackle your
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mind it's falsehood so to to not have anything at all is better so Christians let's look at
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them when they were into when the pope had power over all the kings were they in the enlightenment
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or were they in Dark Ages they themselves call it dark ages then when did you come into power after you sloughed it all off right you threw it away some the Eastern countries still have
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some Catholicism Western countries threw it all away protestantism Catholicism the whole thing is out which one's stronger in the world the less Christianity you have the stronger you
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are and and and for the Islamic world history it's the
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opposite this is all based on Allah saying
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in our soldiers they will always have victory that means that Muslim Army that nation of Muslims the
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Army well Army comes from the nation when they're practicing their beliefs and their Islam Allah
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ensures them give them Victory because if they do that and fail then Outsiders were like okay being
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religious doesn't help doesn't help me it's bad for us so it's about these principles okay that
Leaders in Ummah
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that's interesting so you are in effect saying that uh we need to be an umah that is deserving
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of Victory now how do we reconcile the fact that sometimes Victory can come to people who are m in
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sins or even to non-believers um as we have seen throughout history and maybe even throughout the
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last century or so that there have been leaders in the Muslim umah who haven't been great leaders but
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may have achieved a victory here or Victory there how do we reconcile that with what you've just stated there about you know almost ity to Victory there are a couple points to first of all all of
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what we're saying regards the broader Nation not the individual is there anyone going to be
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more Pious than S Hussein but the individual level you can being given Victory or martyrdom but at a
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national level at a military level and army level the principle is is when you are upright and Pious
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you will get overall Victory doesn't mean every single battle but overall you'll have Victory so
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that's the first issue so take out individuals because some people might say there are many IND Pious individuals they didn't get Victory no the pious individual this doesn't apply to him he
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will have one of two victories the worldly life or martydom number two Beyond this when Allah doesn't
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help a person when Allah's Aid does not come down for a group of people he leaves them to themselves
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whoever is more powerful amongst you will win whoever observes the laws of the world that
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Allah placed the asbab will win will succeed so there so therefore amongst non-believing Nations
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there's still going to be victories but it's not a Divine Victory how do we know what is a sign of a Divine victory that the success improves your beliefs your morals your Ean it improves your
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status and it increases you in happiness so that was a sign that Allah has given you victory that
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it comes with all those other good things and it it increases you in tawa and it comes to you at
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a time of tawa that's the Hallmark of a Divine Victory here's another point to bring up that's
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two points so far Point number three related to this subject when humans are left to their
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own devices Allah is not helping them then their road to Victory looks like this it's very slow
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and then defeat and the end of the monarchy usually is quick but when Allah gives you
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Victory it's the opposite it's very steeply inclined upwards look at the sahaba a type of
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victory that would make you dizzy so you went from a country that no one even wants to pass through
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because there's nothing there to a country that's sending an army to Persia and the byzantines
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simultaneously and taking on two empires that had sewage they had governments they had books
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they had libraries they had civilization you Arabs had nothing so that when Allah gives Victory it's
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really sudden and quick and then it tapers off with the piety if the Piet is there you keep it
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if it's not there then it tapers off and as we could see after the sahaba who had more piety than the sahaba after them it tapered a bit because the next Generation no one's going to
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have the same TAA as a sahaba so those are three principles surrounding um the subject and uh you
Competing obligations
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mentioned earlier on that there is a relationship between your practice of Islam your political and
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Military capabilities right so let's measure her up let's weigh those uh let's call them resources
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wave them up like what's more important here um because of course sometimes we do come across
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Muslims who say that it's not really the Practical side that counts it's more the Iman side it's the
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it's the wearing of the hijab it's the you know praying of the Salah that's really what counts in terms of in terms of Allah's scales when he gives us Victory like how do we weigh up these different
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com let's call them competing obligations possibly okay it's very good question that you
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bring up and there are two very important points number one part of your religious obligation
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is to prepare every single possible thing that you can based on Allah
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saying so uh prepare every single possible thing that you can that will strengthen you so
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that's a religious obligation equal to the other religious obligations in the Quran so you're not
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permitted to go and engage in something without having taken every single that you can that's
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number one and it's like this um this the same people who those two things and you realize this
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worldly thing is a religious obligation it's just like in a marriage when a woman
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receives a proposal and the we is thinking well he's so Pious should we just take him as is well you're he's Pious based on what the prophet said religion and character you have to
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assess so isn't part of religion that you must be able to protect and sustain a family you want
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to marry this woman can you you feed her and put a roof over her head and protect her and clothe her that is your religious obligation so we don't say oh this Dean and his are great but
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he can't provide anything yeah but his providing is part of religion so when I ask about how are
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you going to live I'm asking about your Dean that is a religious obligation upon
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you I want to know are you able to fulfill your religious obligation it's not like it's a civil social are we secular that's a social obligation and this is the I no so that's the
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first point the second point is when those who say let's be practical you don't have to
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say it Allah has already told us in the Quran that the he had first said if you were one and
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you face a large what's the ay man you face a large number sometimes I forget these numbers
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what's the ratio there is a ratio given to us in the Quran which ends up being Allah saying
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now Allah knows he knows you're weak so now the ratio is 1 to two right one to
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two that means by Shar I am permitted to say no I'm not engaging in this fight and sending
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my soldiers who have wives and children and protect the nation behind us I'm not sending
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them into death so we are permitted to have and Allah gave us the ratio right
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uh if there are 20 patient ones they will defeat
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200 so what's the ratio one to 10 20 to 200 was 1 to 10
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yeah if there is a 100 you can defeat a thousand so a 1 to 10 ratio of power this
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is power at large back in the day it's manpow right today it's much much more than Manpower
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however now Allah has decreased this and he knows you're
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weak if you are 100 strong resilient patient they can defeat 200 so what has Allah done he's
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reduced the ratio one to two so that means if I have thank you s if I have a my power is less
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or the the enemy power is less than double my power so 1.75 1.9 but not double once it hits
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double we can make a decision now because Allah has permitted us to at this point say no no this
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is we're we're we're not going to do this so there is room for this pragmatics but again
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we don't have to think we're doing it no Allah has given us that that's really interesting so
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is that why um people like Salah um first built up Muslim Power by conquering Syria and in Egypt
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and bringing them under a singular a singular Rule and and a singular uh formation before it
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uh before he sought to reclaim Jerusalem was he was he basing it upon this capability um
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calculus that you've just described I believe so because when you read their biographies they were very much they were not kamakazi no running into when you read their biographies it was there was
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preparations there were numbers and they were thinking about these things in a very practical
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sense you would you can't succeed if you're not practical like that but let me also make another point this is for this doesn't necessarily entail being invaded recently there was a
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clip of someone who quoted this correctly but almost alluding to that uh defending
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yourself includes this there is on that of different Scholars when you're invaded by
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such a overwhelming majority that you have the permissibility to make a deal with them but at
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the same time there is also the possibility to fight as the Afghans did in their battle and
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the Russian power was way more than double the strength of the Afghans and the Afghans had the
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terrain on their side right but they fought and they expelled them and Russia came in an Empire
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and exited the Soviet the the Russian Republic very few years later so they H they damaged them
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severely right and Allah also they put up a fight but Allah also sent them their future enemy right
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as Allah says in the Quran he sends Moses I will send Moses to his to an enemy of his and an enemy
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of mine the basket will enter and Moses will end up being raised in his own enemy's house so
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likewise their future enemy the United States uh came to their aid with Millions upon millions of
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dollars and even the playing field in fact the the Afghans had the advantage now because they have the terrain and they have the money earlier on uh Dr Shi you mentioned that Allah subhana wa tala
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gives Victory to the True Believers but we also know in Quran and in Hadith that allaha sometimes
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withholds Victory not because uh the Believers are less Believers but because of a wisdom and explain
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that idea like the withholding Victory or why or how does that uh come about well I believe that
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um and good example of this will be many righteous Muslim armies were not able to enter B the the the
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Constantinople they could not penetrate the walls of Constantinople sahaba tried right sahaba tried
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so then how does this match with the saying that the the armies of Islam are always Victorious if
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they're Pious the answer to that is that the there was no loss in the inability to penetrate those
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fortresses overall nobody would have said ah they going not the right religion right keep in mind
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that Allah gives just like Allah gives to prophets and victory to jund his armies so that inability
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is an example that did not end up making anybody doubt the truthfulness of Islam if they had
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for example lost the Byzantine Army the the the total war against the byzantines and the Persians
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then came to Medina then lost before that even to M then an outsider would say oh I don't know if
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it's the True Religion right yeah they had a nice few moments they conquered Mecca but that's it so
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that's the question that you ask and and that's where uh the understanding that yeah there you
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don't get everything but you don't have the losses that make people say this is not the truth and I've seen it I've seen it where I was having a discussion with an old man one time in
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Egypt and and he said that the the feeling in the air when Jam ABD Nas was President the Egyptians
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felt they could take on the world he filled them with confidence but that confidence was
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based on hot air and then he said when we lost to Israel he said the the depression in Egypt was so
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bad so many people left so what happens when Jamal ABD nasar loses you say I told you guys
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the secular ways Muhammad shwi he said that there were sh in Egypt when they lost one of the wars
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against Israel he prayed so they said how could you say that for the nation is lost to Israel he
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said this were not the people of Allah and one of the soldiers there corroborated this he said the
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night before the battle they were passing around illicit magazines the soldiers were passing around
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the night before the the the war the battle how is Allah going to give if if Allah gave them Victory
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they'd say okay we don't need Islam then but all these losses over the period of secularization it
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gives you a realize like where are you going to turn to next what ideology is there next
Allah’s intervention
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um we hear stories from time to time from uh those who are fighting for the defense of their
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lands like the Bosnian Muslims or the kashmiri Muslims but uh extraordinary um uh events happen
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during battle uh where which cannot be explained by normal uh science or mathematics you know
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things happen uh where uh it's and and they would they would suggest that this is um you know from
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Suba tala Allah has sent his helpers to help uh Believers how much should we delve into that type
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of uh conversation and discussion like how how real how realistic is it for Allah to intervene
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in the in in Warfare and in in in our pursuit of Victory the um karamat that happened and there's
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a book out uh on U the Kat of the Afghan War it's like I'm going to send you the English
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it's in English too yeah it's just like page after page after page and there are karamat from people
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who were jailed unlawfully just recently um an activist by the name of Mai or something she was
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on a podcast saying that she was beaten so badly in that she couldn't see the color of her skin
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anymore on the part of the body that she was being the color of her skin she couldn't see it from how many how much blood under the skin was was flowing and she said she was fully healed in
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three days Zab Al gazali was a woman who her story is beyond amazing she said that she was sent into
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a room full of dogs and was being bitten by the dogs for three hours and she was able to estimate
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that time by the the daylight but she totally passed out when she woke up and they threw her
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in another room she didn't see a single Mark of a dog bite nor were her clothes even ripped so much
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so that she started to think was she dreaming was this a nightmare or did it actually happen
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and guess what the the jail guard the prison guard came in Furious and because he's Egyptian
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they know Islam like they know what these things she said now he said to her now you're going to start acting like a and doat could you believe that so these types of things and you could read
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this in a book called The Return of the Pharaoh so and it's a pdf online unfortunately none of these
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you write a book these days you could sell it for like two two weeks before it's the PDF is out it's terrible I feel bad for the authors right yes but you don't plan for that it h it may happen it may
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not but you can't we're not permitted to plan H for that so that's the difference I think we
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should read about those things to gain energy that Allah's with us to belief that Allah's with us but
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I don't never seen any Imam say all right let's go I'm going to send you and you're going to jump
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off the cliff and hope for a k you're not allowed to plan for it but I suppose there there must be a personal level of commitment to the dean and to Allah subhana wa ta'ala to to expect or at least
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to hope for uh such an intervention the being on the truth and being truthful yourself is all that
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matters and not being perfect not being um you don't have to be perfect you don't have to be
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a sinless m so prophets are masum they cannot sin and disobey Allah although some say this
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there they can do minor infractions outwardly but not inwardly meaning he didn't intend to disobey
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Allah but he accidentally did they some said that but otherwise they're mum the idea that they will
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willingly disobey Allah is not there but we can be at the highest level Allah protected our inside
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our hearts and our bodies from disobeying him him or if we don't attain that we can be uh we can
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be which is yes you do but it's very rare you do but maybe only
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one out of 10 one out of a 100 times and then if you don't be that then you be that yes you do pretty regularly but you always make Toba and then that's the line
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you cannot be under that F will not receive these Divine blessings but above that and your cause is
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true then yes Allah will come to the aid of that person so people do not have to imagine you have
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to have a uh absolutely perfect record that you never committed any sins no you have to you you
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don't accept sins for yourself you make Toba you don't accept it for yourself and also you are not
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obligated to have a PhD in theology AA and have absolutely every single AA matter downright with
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the proofs and the evidences in order for Allah to accept you no there there there is possibilities
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on secondary and tertiary matters that you may not even know that you don't even know guaranteed for
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sure there were sahab who entered into battle with the messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi wasallam
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there were were so fresh in Islam they didn't there is no way you can tell me that they knew certain things there was even one sahabi entered Jenna without having made one wo and one Salah and
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he asked what is happening here they said this is the messenger of Allah fighting against the pagans and he said what is he called to he says he calls to this this and this he said and what does
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he promise he says he promises Jenna for those who die in his sight he said then what am I doing
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eating these dates and he put the dates aside fought in the Battle of bed with the sahaba died
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on the spot he hadn't even formally uttered the Shah I don't think in that narration he formally
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uttered the like we he declared his belief he did not do one wo one Salah and on top of
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that there are certain matters in a as well that mistakes are tolerable and acceptable there can
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be mistakes there's in matters of so the primary what is Crystal clear with no discussion in the
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language and then there are secondary matters of there are right so a person can have mistakes
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even in those and he's still considered uh and someone who Allah can help Okay that's really
Wait for victory?
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really interesting um C can you clear something up for me um and again it's it's an idea you hear
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from time to time and that is that why don't we if Victory is from Allah subhana wa ta'ala
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why don't we just wait for it and when Allah decides to hand us this Victory then everything
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in the Muslim world will fix itself uh uh so that's the Jewish version of the Messiah they're
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not allowed by law by religious law to even make an effort they can move there to Jerusalem
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by accident or Not by accident but by for other purposes even religious purposes but not intending
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to bring back the Jewish State that's the famous three promis of Solomon three Oaths of Solomon
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they can't they can't establish the state they have to be in Exile and they have to obey the law
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of the land they can't disrupt the people there we don't have this Doctrine and on top of that we
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have to actually make sure to always correct the concept of the awaited Mahi because I'm telling
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you I guarantee you this is a big roadblock for people yeah they actually have to flip it Abdul uh
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Hussein has put out a video and he said we should not we should understand the meaning of the phrase
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the awaited M he says that the waiting here just means the your hope that he's coming that
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he's hasn't come yet that's all it means but it does not mean that you wait and it does not mean
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that we are awaiting permission to establish Islam again it does not mean we that we are awaiting the
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completion of the Shar does not mean that anything will happen in the religion that will not happen
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outside of him we should flip the idea of the MDI to believe that he will not come to people except
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those who strive and struggle so if you want to see him then strive and struggle not the opposite
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way around because they take the end times hadiths and say he comes at a time when the world
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is filled with oppression therefore in fact when we see goodness then we're actually further away
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that's a wrong approach because when the prophet Sall wasallam says it's filled with oppression does not mean absolutely in predominantly it's filled with Darkness predominantly doesn't mean
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there's no force of light so when he comes he has people who recognize him armies who recognize him
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so therefore there are pockets of light there are pockets of light there are pockets of goodness so
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the messianism is actually a big crutch that some people act out of ignorance lean upon and say well
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there's not going to be any until the M anyway okay but who's to say the m is going to come to
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lazy people who's to say that Allah will not send the M until he sees an um willing to fight with
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or without him and Ahmed when I asked him about this how would we recognize the MDI he shifted
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it completely every one of us should tried to be AI you're not going to be the Mahi but AI what
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does he come for to establish to establish a Shar well you have the Shar already and you have the
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green light to establish it however you can so messianism is a mental disease spiritual disease
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that is essentially a misunderstanding and the that framework has to be broken and transformed
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it can it be possible that Imam m is going to come to people sitting down it's not possible
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he has to come to people he will come to people who are who are putting the effort with or without
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him and if you notice in life you always succeed when you're putting the effort with or without help then the help comes what is interesting about Syria is um most political analysts in
Gaza’s victory
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fact all political analysts just did not see it coming um and in fact uh it was seen that
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the Arab Spring had ended and the Syrian Civil War had come to it conclusion and now really it
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was just about mopping up some of the uh some of the remaining remnants of the of the uh of
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the rebellion in itli and and its Countryside so the impossible did happen in Syria um and um uh
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and and that's you know that's amazing and and today's discussion helps us to appreciate and contextualize that um but let's talk about Gaza because Gaza is is a different level
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of impossibility let's say that um whereas uh Syria Assad had as back as you know Russia and
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Hezbollah and these two parties were weakened um Israel has as a backer the United States
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your country the United States of America and the United States is probably the most powerful
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power in the world most powerful power at least in a military power the world has ever seen so
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the odds are very much against the liberation of Gaza um I suppose the question here is that
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like does that impact our understanding of the concept of Victory Mir shamer just had
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an interview with somebody yeah and she said I don't get the people of Gaza you're not winning
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why don't you just accept defeat and at least live peacefully live out your life well Allah
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tal has chosen a people who have a different view of the world and really it's up it's the people of
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that have had this spirit and it's up to us now to support their decisions in what they do and
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they have chosen to accept the very slim chances of Victory or martydom and if you think about it
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if you think about it they have struck a severe blow to Israel and Allah T mentions in the Quran
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you know I know someone everyone's say well look what they suffered okay but getting gains against your enemy is not free and they're willing to pay the price uh Allah speaks in the Quran about to
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agitate your enemy and I always wondered about that because to is agitation yeah so for example
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he says the piety of the companions agitates the enemy the the visual the visual of it that means
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praying in front of everybody it agitates and Allah describes the sahabi like a stalk that
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means visible they worship Allah visibly they're not doing it in hiding they could have they could
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have worshiped Allah in and that's it no out loud I'm reting the Quran knock on everyone door sik
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praying in his Courtyard so this agitation of the enemy makes them behave irrationally to their own
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self detriment and we're living in a world today where the hatred of the Zionist movement is at a
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level no one's ever seen before nobody has ever seen before for every single Palestinian who has
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been killed there is probably a thousand regular people in the world who despise the Zionist regime
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so it was up to them to make a decision collectively as their as that Community to put up
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the White Flag okay let's just live with everybody else and and at least we'll have regular life and
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probably nobody would have blamed them but they chose another path and it's as if to say like
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you're you're you're building an empire but you there's an unmovable Little Rock that you can't move little Stone in the way but that stone has deep Roots under the ground and that's their imen
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and they've chosen they've chosen that route so it's up to us now to support them in that and uh
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they're not thinking about anything well I can't say what they're thinking but I I can't imagine that they're thinking about anything less than Allah is greater than them Allah's greater than
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these people that they are enemies why don't we go back even to Jewish history it's funny because
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well the history of B is David and Saul the army that David Saul and their Prophet who was said to
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be prophet Samuel at that time only had about 313 people in it P say 315 and they faced Goliath who
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had the amalekites who were every single amalekite was taller than every single Ben is it's why the
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word means like a tall person they were so tall and they outnumbered them you couldn't see the end
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of the army versus 315 people who had no training who have been outcasted in the woods living yet
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they defeated thema is which who who is David's Army Reza or Israel right so clear very clearly
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in the biography of um Yar who which he wrote in jail he essentially said there is no uh value to
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to life except through shahada um I know that um we're not meant to um we're not meant to pin
Hypocrisy
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we're not meant to pin labels of hypocrisy on one another or nefar on one another and it's a it's a
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very dangerous idea to to to use that term but um we do know that there are some general signs about
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neak and and they often uh in the S they often come about as a result of the questioning of
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Victory can you Enlighten us on on you know some of those qualities of the maafi so that we can
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save ourselves from from being in in that camp and may Allah forgive us for that well I think that
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um of we can never know of action we can know because we see your actions that's
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the if the and does it mean that you're a of Allah says oh you who believe why do you
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say what you don't do so therefore there is two n and then there's the outside of
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religion in the dun and the punishment is in the duny but when people don't
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believe in Victory of Allah we wouldn't say that's we say that's weakness of Ean
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right weakness of Iman and and it's people simply do not know it is a lack of awareness
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or remembrance or consciousness of Allah's power and that it will come to every it exists
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in every generation God's power didn't stop with prophethood prophethood stopped but Divine Victory
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doesn't stop and Allah says in the Quran how many small groups have defeated large groups he didn't
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say not say how many small Believers believing groups defeated large believing groups large
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enemies no how many small groups have defeated in the realm of everything we see upsets we see
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surprise happenings so we put these shackles on our mind and puts them on our mind which
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shouldn't be the case and we allow them to be on our mind or we put them on our mind and then you
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live two three four decades with those Shackles on your mind that shackle that chain that prison cell
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becomes home to you and people literally do not want to leave it and I once got into the to the
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question of why are some people unhappy all the time and somebody gave the best answer and he said
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that unhappiness has become their home success is something they don't know how to handle so they
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much rather even if you're headed to success they they will subconsciously screw it up and they lose
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all the time no matter how ahead they are they lose it's because I I I I start to think they
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enjoy that's their home they're in a comfort zone there this is what they know and winning
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and being Victorious and being successful is something they don't know they don't want the unknown after like age 45 they don't want the unknown that's what I think happens we have
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to break these shackles there is absolutely nothing by Shar by eschatology by anything
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that precludes or discounts that there will be a great successes in the um of
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Islam and if someone cites the Hadith that there's four rules
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there's then there's then then the return of on the manh of so uh they say okay we're going to
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have to tyrants until the Anda come down for the who's to say that who's who's not to say
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that there won't be preludes to that like it doesn't turn light like a a sun doesn't come
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up like a light switch comes gradually so who's to say they're not going to be wonderful preludes of
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great success for the Muslim umah before that telling you esoy if it's misunderstood people
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will will have depression yeah okay on on that point because there are some who are uh and I
Believer’s mindset
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I've you know I've succumbed to this in in in past years where uh we become so uh uh embedded in this
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eschatology language and discussion and Hadith and uh that it almost like commands our life and makes
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and makes us admires our political decision making and our concept of of Victory and a concept of
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defeat um so what is the balance I suppose mindset of a Believer when it comes to when it comes to
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these sorts of narrations the balance is to that the Shar will not give you two opposite things
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it will not say act and don't act therefore when Allah tells us about the signs of the end of time
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these signs of the end of time must match action any interpretation that results in inaction is a
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false interpr is an incorrect interpretation right right 100% incorrect you have to act
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and you don't know what other kind of Victories Allah will give you right right does not or bust
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orst no you could have a wonderful country it's not but it's a wonderful place for Islam where
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Muslims can Thrive can live can can can enjoy the government isn't putting you in jail it's
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possible to have that it doesn't have to be the so the Hadith is right but also it requires action so
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that kind of mentality has to be that framework has to be broken and transformed
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into an interpretation of action these good things are not going to come to people who sit around waiting they're going to come to people who take action by the way there's a lot more
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than Levant in the Islamic world you know the signs of the end of time or in the world that we live sign times all in Levant right what about da to South America what about da to North America
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who's to say amazing things could happen in these parts of the world you're England doesn't show up
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in the signs of the end of time so what do what do people think is happening there's no world anymore
52:08
and everyone's just at a standstill watching the End of Time happening no there's still life going on who's to say that by the end of this Century from now until the next century Europe
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transforms now they're kicking and screaming rightwing is kicking and screaming okay until when
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we've seen this before it's going to die off it's going to die down the West is always es and flows
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and when it dies down who knows where how how much guilt some of those uh people will have that's
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usually what happens you go so conservative so fascist so ethnocentric the next generation's like
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oh this is like doesn't taste good and they become so liberal right uh with migrants with immigrants
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how do you know that's not going to happen so you and then I'd like to bring up another point
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it's actually an insult to the Creator that you that he gives you willower and You' believe that you don't have it and it's an insult really to yourself as well to believe that Israel has so
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much more power than it does the West has so much more power than it does who's to say that you don't have willpower yeah this narrative is also a disease that we have to pluck out of our
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heads that nothing really can happen happen except if they do this that and they allow it and stuff
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right uh you're just given too much and let's say it's true let's hypothetically say a fact comes
53:38
down from the heavens is that it's actually true they have 100% of the power all right it's not going to change except if you stop acting that way if you say okay well they got 100% let's play the
53:49
part you're definitely not going to be the Agent of Change the Agent of Change says yeah it is that way but it doesn't have to be we can change this right so you won't be an Agent of Change just by
54:02
accepting all bad news and bad facts facts that aren't for your favor you don't have to accept
54:08
them like you accept that they're facts but I don't have to accept that this is how it's going to be in the future are we allowed to question in inverted commas Allah subhana wa tala or implore
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him to provide Victory quickly or or is that a a form of ungratefulness or a or is that being
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imp patient or lacking subur um how how do we you know how do we see this idea of of getting Victory
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quickly uh in relation to to our belief system well the um question comes overall in general
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is it permitted to ask Allah to bring the good quickly and the answer overwhelmingly or maybe I
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could say unanimously is the permissibility and praiseworthiness of asking one's Dua with when
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it's there is actually permissibility in that so where is the line the line is when Allah
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brings it and he brings it forward it's not on your time it's not on your time so so someone
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says I asked Allah t for a job and I said make it come quickly and it took two months
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I was unemployed for two months it's hard to be unemployed for two months your credits goes crazy or 10 landlord's after you you can't buy food and gas okay but how do you know that that
55:35
isn't the answer to your prayer maybe you would have been employed for a year unemployed for a
55:40
year and Allah brought it forth to two months so on the the other hand it's like impossible
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to ever know what the tajid is so we should ask for that but it should not constrain our actions
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and it should not be a crutch to take in action and go to and sleep in this is one of the worst things for any um is if you sleep in and number two number three it shouldn't be something that
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you set the timeline for they say also is there ever a permissibility to set a timeline for Allah
56:15
T the answer is no unless the timeline is sent for you oh Allah by tomorrow this guy's going to come
56:21
and arrest me if I don't pay the my bills that's when uh you can say well I I have a deadline no
56:28
you didn't set the deadline someone your enemy set the deadline so tomorrow either the money comes or the guy will say I'll give you another week if your D is accepted Siri has taught me uh
Importance of Dua
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I think quite an important lesson I I I get from many Muslims that I've spoken to the the the sort
56:45
of idea that sometimes you restrict your Dua to what you think is politically plausible uh and
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so what I found uh in recent months mons and years you know I used to give Dua I used to ask Dua for
56:59
victory for Syria and I think that that Dua became more watered down it was more you know alleviate their suffering or alleviate their pain and and um you know may I suppose my first question attached
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to that is that sort of a sign of weakness in a way but also my my second question is really uh
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it's taught me to you know to uh to make du for the impossible more often you know for KFA I mean
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KFA seems like a a very distant Prospect but why not you know Allah subh T can can bring us you
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know this Victory out of out what seemed like nowhere I mean how how do you reflect on what
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I've said there really well it's such an important subject to bring up and it's this is the mentality
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if it spreads Everything Will Change and that is our da to Allah is not restricted to what we can
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imagine it's not restricted to us knowing the ways in which it would happen it's restricted
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to is it a good thing and it could be solely not a good thing neutral but desirable to me right I
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may desire something Shar says it's neutral it's also permitted for me to do to ask for
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and to seek it from my Creator as Imad says even if you wanted the D at least go get it from the
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Creator not from the creation we shouldn't have this restriction it is a weakness and I'll tell
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you the pinpoint of the weakness is uh lack of imagination and lack of submission to the
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fact that Allah tal can create what we don't know in a ways that we cannot fathom Allah
58:43
says he gives him sustenance from where he least expected it so Allah is announcing to us I have
58:53
stuff you have no clue about right so go for the end result you don't need to know where the steps
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are go for the we go for the end result in our Dua not knowing where the steps are at all and
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here's the thing that's the joy of the whole thing if it's predictable if the steps are there there's
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no joy to it you wouldn't even make du for it because the asbab are right in front of you yeah most people when they see the asbab the means of attaining our goals right in front of them
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they don't pray they only pray when they don't see the means but they really want to get to the end
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and and I personally um find that Dua for things which you cannot fathom that is actually the most
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enjoyable because now you become an object in a script and Allah moves you and you meet one person
59:40
then you meet another person five years later you're like I cannot even fathom how are we here
59:46
well you're here because you believed in Allah and he took you there he's a far better author than me and you are ever going to be or any human being is ever going to be so the whole Joy is in
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shooting for something that we have no clue how we're going to get and not stopping the condition
1:00:05
is you don't stop you don't say okay after two yearsas I I give up fantastic um uh we often
1:00:11
hear from from uh from Sheiks from um Scholars that tahajud is a really important asset for a
Value of Tahhajud
1:00:19
Believer uh in particular when you're in in very dark times um can you remind us of the value of
1:00:26
Sal and and why uh that's integral I suppose to our worship when it
1:00:31
comes to seeking Victory Prophet Sall was asked which Dua is heard the most and he
1:00:41
said in the middle of the night and after or at the end of the obligatory prayers so every Muslim
1:00:56
prays five times a day at least we pray all pray at the Baseline of a Muslim if your food is Hal
1:01:03
and your wealth is Hal you have a gift from Allah and to not accept a gift from a king to
1:01:10
minimize it and not to use it to its fullest is an insult to the king so when we approach Salah
1:01:18
you're approaching to pray in order to receive your gift the gift of Salah is that right after
1:01:25
Salah you have a Dua that will be answered and when they say it does not mean one Dua
1:01:32
it means one session of Dua I may make a du with 10 things in it or 100 things in it or one thing
1:01:37
in it so does not necessitate that it's only one item that you pray for one matter so every
1:01:46
Muslim should take advantage of their Salah make and then make and whatever they can of the after
1:01:56
if they're busy or they're free and then claim your your gift claim your gift from
1:02:02
Allah subhana wa tala which is a Dua and in the language of Dua needs equals wants for example
1:02:14
Prophet says Whoever has a need but in the world of Dua ha means a want a desire and then
1:02:29
refers to an answer when Allah says means which du is heard most by Allah is which is answered
1:02:38
most by Allah Dr sh um how important is it to study the battles of the messenger sallallahu
Battle of prophet
1:02:44
alhi wasallam uh when thinking about developing a a deeper understanding of these credal ideas like
1:02:53
n like like other concepts of of Islam because it just comes to me that uh often uh when reading the
1:03:01
S um it's it's when we study the battles of the Prophet Sall Al wasallam that we we get a strong
1:03:07
feel for the acuteness of these Concepts and and their applicability in our world but of course in
1:03:13
a post 911 world uh we seem to shy away from today discussing theat of the Prophet Alat wasam I mean
1:03:21
what's your what's your take on that well it's um remember in the 40 noi hadiths which IMI compiled
1:03:30
as the essential foundations of the religion he narrates one of them lists one of those which
1:03:40
says and that is that the the the part that is the peak what keeps like what keeps attempt up or the
1:03:51
high point is strugg fighting for for for for what you believe essentially saying like this world is
1:04:02
not going to give you anything and there's there's no coincidence that it's not a coincidence that
1:04:10
the greatest Empires are always the greatest militaries it's as simple as that and when does an Empire fall when it loses battles when I was young I used to think it feel like so out of
1:04:19
place here our whole history is over there and I'm over here and like how do we get here that's the
1:04:25
key we have to ask all right how did how did this happen because you you can't help but feeling so
1:04:31
out of place yeah so when you go back you go to a very simple conclusion these people's grandparents
1:04:40
beat my grandparents in Wars that's how simple it is Generations later it got so bad we got to
1:04:49
come here to eat better food that's how simple it is right and if you don't like it don't lose Wars
1:04:57
so we have no one to blame but ourselves right no one to blame but ourselves for the situation
1:05:03
that we're in and on the one hand yeah you're grateful to have lived in a in a in a country where you could practice your Dean properly think clearly but also how many people have lost their
1:05:11
Dean that's a whole another subject but point being is that you cannot have a nation an umah
1:05:20
in anything without fighting for it now this is not me encouraging anyone to do a specific
1:05:28
fight because that wouldn't be right for me to do right or to even engage in anything that I haven't
1:05:35
myself been engaged in or the sh is Crystal Clear upon it that it just wouldn't be right and it
1:05:42
doesn't look good and it doesn't settle right but as a concept as a concept even states that
1:05:56
there are two obligations that will last until the end of time you can't have a nation without
1:06:04
defense and striking fear into other nations like in the when you read the books about the
1:06:11
some of them say or or Sultan the sulan Sul uh they say the Govern the khif the sultan has to
1:06:21
send a battalion in each of the four directions of his land twice a year once in the summer once
1:06:29
in the winter why to remind the opposing Nations we're here and our army looks really good look at
1:06:36
our that's why they do military parades it's not for it's for the nation to gain confidence but also for the outside Nations to say okay they got this tank they got these horses they got all these
1:06:46
soldiers you're basically saying don't come near us it's like having a dog in your front yard it's
1:06:52
for the protection of the lands um we've become politically correct because of the Nations that
1:07:01
we're living in but that's the only reason when the United States supported the Afghan war there
1:07:10
were mus there were Muslims doing fundraisers for Jihad in the mass and it's almost like the
1:07:17
military the US government had offices that would help you get there they pay for you to get there
1:07:25
it's not even a joke in Jersey City they had a mid the whatever government Department literally made
1:07:32
a makeshift office across the street literally send them over send them over so then everyone
1:07:40
was okay talking about Gad people there are people in our community who went to Bosnia to
1:07:46
fight there was no political ramifications at all just as British and American citizens are going
1:07:53
joining the IDF and fighting there's no political ramification yeah so the reason that we've all
1:07:59
stayed a bit quiet was two two things number one our country is the enemy in those countries right
1:08:07
so you you you're in that situation and number two it got all cloudy by groups like Isis that
1:08:15
gave a bad name to Jihad and so therefore people are like okay let's stay away from the whole thing there are people who just have I would say allaham a type of modernism secularism
1:08:27
and possibly a weak Faith who have put up the white flag and said let's just live Islam as a
1:08:35
spirituality and live under the modern democratic ways and I would say that I can't analyze that
1:08:47
other than that I think they have just lost faith yeah right and and how important is studying the
1:08:54
the battles of the prophet in in this in this oh it's it's uh essential to study what Allah said
1:09:02
and what the prophet wasallam said about battle because there are principles there are princi what
1:09:07
you don't which what's not necessarily going to be the important thing is the strategy used because it's a different world right uh the most common strategy that you see in all literally the whole
1:09:19
premodern worlds nobody even knows it today right like they called it the fain's retreat
1:09:26
yeah the the F Retreat you find it they talk about it like it's it's a pick and roll of warfare back in we don't even know it today but what's
1:09:35
important is to look at the principles in the Battle of Badr only has a few
1:09:40
AAS gave you victory of B when you were so Meek and humble so meekness
1:09:48
and humility in front of Allah is a value then we have over 30 consecutive
1:09:59
and that's where the the point is obedience like you have to learn from your losses obedience uh
1:10:04
so those principles I think are is what's more important than the strategems uh but
1:10:10
uh all you can learn a lot from ssu's Art of War those principles and and and and Universal
1:10:18
strategies if that's the case because we know everyone cites that you can definitely learn principles and Universal strategies from the prophet wasam from from from Universal
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strategies right like the prophet wasallam going to the well they stopped and sahabi said there's
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a well over here so what does that tell us it's like resources number one resource is water one final question for you Dr Shard and jaak it's been really a fantastic conversation and that's
Giving up
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really about um giving up um you know we've had 14 months 14 15 months now of a genocide um we've
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had years decades of excruciating pain in the Muslim umah country after country we're seeing
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um chaos and we're seeing uh failure alhamdulillah we've seen some good signs recently but you know
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the overbearing um uh the majority of what we're seeing is still very very bad and and you know
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very circumspect so I suppose my question is um we can uh psychologically be worn down by this
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and it can lead to you know some of us giving up and showing weakness um and and is that you know
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is that a um I mean it's a bad thing of course but is that you know a a problematic thing I suppose
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when it comes to our Islam and our Iman I think it uh I think giving up because one's exhausted
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and lost faith is very different than giving up because the situation doesn't even allow any
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more action so for example someone said what is a situation where I'm allowed to give up it's like
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death right death I'm praying for my grandma's sh but she dies Allah chose something else at that
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point you now just make Dua for her happiness in the but as long as there is an ability to
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move your legs giving up is seems to be more like it's it's there's no excuse for it yeah there's
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no excuse for it and that's why psychologically we have to be balanced psychologically we have
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to be balanced and that balance occurs by living the Shar Sharia will say get married Sharia will
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say have children Shar will say go go have work sh will say make money Sharia will say make Haj
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Mak om we Muslims are doing tons of things right we're doing so many different things when we do
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so many different things it releases some of these tensions and stresses that lead a person to just
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give up right just think of something else for a little bit but that some people call it stick
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toi liveness the idea that you just keep pecking away and just go another day how about this pass
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it on to another generation that's it just pass it on to another generation the situation may
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change in the future right just it should be a principle that you just keep going keep pecking
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away keep pecking away keep pecking away and the situation changes right so one of the these
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days the pecs uh may may actually break through the wall and if you don't Peck away and if you
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don't stop you teach your kids the same thing and that's like a hundred-year plan right so why
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don't we think of it as a hundred-year plan I may be generation one out of four and the fourth generation will see but I got to kick it off right so the ethic is more than than asking
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for victory is establishing the ethic that we're not giving this up period discussion over even if
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I'm generation one and it's going to happen in generation 4 that means I'll be long dead very few people live to see their great grandsons live to adulthood but if I put my mindset on
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that then it ends up being what Joe Tori told to um forget his name he said just try to single
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to left you might end up homering to right right like why are you putting those pressure on yourself to see the victory in your lifetime why don't we put it off to the fourth generation
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so as long as we're working at it nonstop and teach the Next Generation work nonstop and Allah
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lot didn't pressure you he didn't pressure you to establish everything right but he pressured
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you to work and that's the ethic that I think we have to have it that stick tutiven ethic I think
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is far more valuable than a desire for the victory right now because you may end up just exhausting
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yourself putting pressure on yourself and failing and then once you go into that depression you send
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your next Generation into that depression too so we put it as an ethic in this our ways is
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this is what we're going for if it happens now it happens next Generation next it will happen right
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it will happen that's a belief so I think that mentality is far better and it's going to lead to a multi-generational perspective and trust me the one thing that Israel doesn't want they can't
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handle a multigeneration eventually eventually eventually the United States will not be able
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to bankroll this operation anymore like this is just a basic fact of history if you ever saw a nation come up on the back of another Nation you ask yourself a simple question
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what happens when that Nation goes bankrupt right simp the Indian colony for example of
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England all it's there as long as England's Rich what happens England's not rich they got to leave
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simple as that so what's going to happen the day which is inevitable Every Nation Rises and Falls I
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don't like to think about this because we upra in the dollar and I don't want to see more inflation
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right and and suffer from that but it will happen someday as a fact of life now we're late no Empire
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is going to last forever so when that happens and Israel has no Bank rolling we better be
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ready to take to seize that opportunity war is preparation and taking advantage of situations
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opportunism it's preparation and opportunism if the opportunity comes and you're not prepared
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that's a waste Shri it's truly been a a valuable conversation today ja thank you so much for your
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